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麥魚_andrew
06-13-2006, 06:58 AM
Which theologian are you?

http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=44116
這是我的結果:

You scored as Karl Barth.


The daddy of 20th Century theology. You perceive liberal theology to be a disaster and so you insist that the revelation of Christ, not human experience, should be the starting point for all theology.

Karl Barth── 93%
John Calvin── 87%
Anselm── 80%
Jonathan Edwards── 80%
Paul Tillich── 47%
J?Moltmann── 47%
Augustine── 40%
Martin Luther── 33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher── 27%
Charles Finney── 27%

老實說,我沒有睇過巴特的著作,只是剛巧選的是他的觀點而已。

維記wei_kei
06-13-2006, 07:16 AM
My result:

You scored as J. Moltmann.

The problem of evil is central to your thought, and only a crucified God can show that God is not indifferent to human suffering. Christian discipleship means identifying with suffering but also anticipating the new creation of all things that God will bring about.

J. Moltmann - 80%
Paul Tillich - 73%
Friedrich Schleiermacher - 73%
Anselm - 73%
Charles Finney - 60%
John Calvin - 53%
Martin Luther - 47%
Augustine - 47%
Karl Barth - 47%
Jonathan Edwards - 40%

wilson
06-13-2006, 07:42 AM
You scored as Anselm.

Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period.He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'

Anselm 100%
Karl Barth 87%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 80%
John Calvin 80%
J?Moltmann 73%
Charles Finney 73%
Paul Tillich 67%
Jonathan Edwards 53%
Augustine 40%
Martin Luther 20%

pathos
06-13-2006, 09:06 AM
Anselm 87%
John Calvin 87%
Karl Barth 73%
Jonathan Edwards 73%
J Moltmann 67%
Martin Luther 53%
Paul Tillich 47%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 40%
Augustine 40%
Charles Finney 40%

Got a tie between Anselm and Calvin :p

HamChoi
06-13-2006, 10:02 AM
You scored as Anselm. Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period.He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'
Anselm 87%
John Calvin 73%
Charles Finney 60%
Jurgen Moltmann 53%
Karl Barth 53%
Martin Luther 53%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 47%
Jonathan Edwards 40%
Paul Tillich 33%
Augustine 33%

胖嘟嘟
06-13-2006, 10:18 AM
Anselm 100%
Karl Barth 73%
Charles Finney 53%
Paul Tillich 53%
John Calvin 40%
Martin Luther 40%
J Moltmann 40%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 40%
Augustine 33%
Jonathan Edwards 27%

hh22
06-13-2006, 10:45 AM
Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period.He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'

Anselm    80%
John Calvin  73%
Martin Luther 67%
J?Moltmann 60%
Karl Barth  60%
Charles Finney 53%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 53%
Paul Tillich  53%
Jonathan Edwards 47%
Augustine  47%

我都估計成長自傳統教會的我大概如此,不過,巴特與莫特曼則真的是自己近年比較關注的神學家,所以亦有不少百分比,算是幾有趣的測驗活動!我會推薦給其他教會朋友玩玩

mckung
06-13-2006, 12:20 PM
You scored as Karl Barth.



The daddy of 20th Century theology. You perceive liberal theology to be a disaster and so you insist that the revelation of Christ, not human experience, should be the starting point for all theology.

Karl Barth

87%
Jonathan Edwards

80%
Anselm

73%
John Calvin

67%
Charles Finney

60%
Martin Luther

53%
Paul Tillich

47%
Augustine

33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher

13%
J?Moltmann

7%

But I do not agree with neo-orthodox theology much. Oh!!!!!!

wonggk
06-13-2006, 01:58 PM
You scored as Anselm.

Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period. He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'

Anselm 87%
Martin Luther 53%
Paul Tillich 53%
Augustine 40%
J?Moltmann 40%
Jonathan Edwards 33%
Charles Finney 27%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 20%
John Calvin 20%
Karl Barth 7%

I just don't buy the survey! I can't be equally closed to Calvin and Schleiermacher, and closer to Calvin than Barth.

tkhwong2005
06-13-2006, 02:38 PM
This is mine... I have problem with this one....not that I don't like Anselm, but I think the questions are not design as good as the other test.:cool:

You scored as Anselm.



Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period.He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'

Anselm

100%
J?Moltmann

87%
Friedrich Schleiermacher

67%
Charles Finney

67%
Martin Luther

60%
John Calvin

53%
Jonathan Edwards

53%
Karl Barth

53%
Augustine

33%
Paul Tillich

20%

nkcwong
06-13-2006, 04:37 PM
The following is my score. The only thing I know about Anselm is his ontological argument for God's existence. And as influential as Moltmann is, I've read only bits and pieces of his work--The Crucified God and Theology of Hope. So I really don't know what to make of this thing.


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You scored as Anselm.



Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period.He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'

Anselm 100%
J Moltmann 87%
Jonathan Edwards 80%
Martin Luther 73%
Charles Finney 73%
Karl Barth 67%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 53%
John Calvin 53%
Paul Tillich 33%
Augustine 27%

Ming Yuen Yee
06-14-2006, 12:44 AM
This is quite surprising and upsetting given my recent rediscovery of Augustine and Luther.:( Also, how come I am 100% Calvin but 33% Luther? Are they that different?

John Calvin 100%
Anselm 93%
J Moltmann 73%
Charles Finney 53%
Karl Barth 47%
Paul Tillich 47%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 47%
Martin Luther 33%
Jonathan Edwards 33%
Augustine 33%

horace
06-14-2006, 02:52 AM
Who is Charles Finney?

Charles Finney 80%
Paul Tillich 67%
John Calvin 60%
Augustine 53%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 53%
Karl Barth 53%
J�rgen Moltmann 47%
Martin Luther 33%
Anselm 27%
Jonathan Edwards 13%

Who is Charles Finney?

nkcwong
06-14-2006, 09:25 AM
This is quite surprising and upsetting given my recent rediscovery of Augustine and Luther.:( Also, how come I am 100% Calvin but 33% Luther? Are they that different?

John Calvin 100%
Anselm 93%
J Moltmann 73%
Charles Finney 53%
Karl Barth 47%
Paul Tillich 47%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 47%
Martin Luther 33%
Jonathan Edwards 33%
Augustine 33%

I couldn't imagine that you would be 100% Calvin. Do you believe in predestination?

nkcwong
06-14-2006, 09:28 AM
Who is Charles Finney?

Charles Finney 80%
Paul Tillich 67%
John Calvin 60%
Augustine 53%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 53%
Karl Barth 53%
J�rgen Moltmann 47%
Martin Luther 33%
Anselm 27%
Jonathan Edwards 13%

Who is Charles Finney?


Finney was a preacher and a revivalist living in the 18th century.

HamChoi
06-14-2006, 11:18 AM
Who scored high with Jonathan Edwards?

You scored as Jonathan Edwards.

You're the original hellfire-and brimstone preacher and you take God's justice very seriously. You are passionate about preaching and an accomplished theologian.

以利達
06-14-2006, 11:55 AM
You scored as Charles Finney.

You're passionate about God and love to preach the Gospel. Your theology borders on pelagianism and it is said that if God were taken out of your theology, it would look exactly the same.

Charles Finney
53%
Martin Luther
53%
John Calvin

47%
Anselm

33%
J?Moltmann

27%
Augustine

27%
Friedrich Schleiermacher

20%
Paul Tillich

13%
Jonathan Edwards

13%
Karl Barth

7%
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以利達問:
我冇讀神學o架~ 想問問:

1.Pelagianism ,如要繼承伯拉糾主義,應治何經何典?

a.強調個人自由意志和道德能力--贊成
b.反對原罪論--個人認為亞當夏娃故事為一神話,有沒有原罪也不打緊
c.人被造時便注定死亡--那是自然的法則
d.質疑基督救贖的必須性--各宗教基本上也是導人向善的

在529年,伯氏給Synod of Orange 判為異端,不知他的下場如何?
希望各會員也會接納我這個異端吧!哈哈



2.Charles Finney 又是何許人也?

謝謝哦

clement
06-14-2006, 12:33 PM
You scored as Charles Finney.
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以利達問:
我冇讀神學o架~ 想問問:

1.Pelagianism ,如要繼承伯拉糾主義,應治何經何典?

a.強調個人自由意志和道德能力--贊成
b.反對原罪論--個人認為亞當夏娃故事為一神話,有沒有原罪也不打緊
c.人被造時便注定死亡--那是自然的法則
d.質疑基督救贖的必須性--各宗教基本上也是導人向善的

在529年,伯氏給Synod of Orange 判為異端,不知他的下場如何?
希望各會員也會接納我這個異端吧!哈哈

謝謝哦

b. 「神話」可以視為理念的形象性表達。就算亞當夏娃故事為一神話,也未必得出沒有原罪的結論。
c. 「人被造時便注定死亡」是相對於「人被造時並不注定死亡,但因犯罪,才要死亡」而言的。

Pelagius : life and letters / B.R. Rees. (1998)
Pelagius : a historical and theological study / by John Ferguson. (1978)

Synod of Orange 判 Pelagius 為異端?? Where you got this information from?

被判的應該是 Pelagianism 而非 Pelagius。而且 Pelagianism 還有一種分支,叫做 Semi-Pelagianism。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagianism
Pelagianism was opposed by Augustine of Hippo, leading to its condemnation as a heresy at several local synods. It was condemned in 416 and 418 at the Councils of Carthage. [3] These condemnations were summarily ratified at the Council of Ephesus in 432, although it was not considered a major act of that council. Pelagianism as a structured heretical movement ceased to exist after the 6th century but its essential ideas continued to cause dispute. [4]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagius
"He probably died in Palestine around 420, as reported by some. Others mention him living as many as twenty years later. The cause of his death is unknown, but the prevailing rumours suggest either that he was killed by his enemies in the Catholic Church, or that he left Rome in frustration and headed into Africa or the Middle East."

clement
06-14-2006, 12:38 PM
You scored as Friedrich Schleiermacher.

You seek to make inner feeling and awareness of God the centre of your theology, which is the foundation of liberalism. Unfortunately, atheists are quick to accuse you of simply projecting humanity onto 'God' and liberalism never really recovers.

Anselm
73%

Friedrich Schleiermacher
73%

Paul Tillich
73%

John Calvin
67%

Charles Finney
33%

J?Moltmann
33%

Augustine
33%

Martin Luther
33%

Jonathan Edwards
20%

Karl Barth
20%

clement
06-14-2006, 12:39 PM
I think Anselm is just the system-bug.

The test has not included BULTMANN, and other Catholic theologians !

clement
06-14-2006, 12:41 PM
Pelagianism 其實現在都有,未必個個都係 100% Calvinist or Augustianian.

以利達
06-14-2006, 12:44 PM
b. 「神話」可以視為理念的形象性表達。就算亞當夏娃故事為一神話,也未必得出沒有原罪的結論。
c. 「人被造時便注定死亡」是相對於「人被造時並不注定死亡,但因犯罪,才要死亡」而言的。

謝謝clement的資料,我會去看看的~~哦 其實我不一定應為"人一定沒有原罪",而是我"不知道人有沒有原罪",或說"人有沒有原罪對我來說沒有意義",不用花精神時間去想。



Synod of Orange 判 Pelagius 為異端?? Where you got this information from?

是梁家麟寫給我這類平信徒看的<<基督教史略>>說的(頁126):

「在529年的俄遮會議中,伯氏也被判為異端。」


這即是說伯氏沒有給火燒酷刑嗎?

clement
06-14-2006, 01:04 PM
謝謝clement的資料,我會去看看的~~哦 其實我不一定應為"人一定沒有原罪",而是我"不知道人有沒有原罪",或說"人有沒有原罪對我來說沒有意義",不用花精神時間去想。


是梁家麟寫給我這類平信徒看的<<基督教史略>>說的(頁126):

「在529年的俄遮會議中,伯氏也被判為異端。」


這即是說伯氏沒有給火燒酷刑嗎?

如果「原罪」換成「無明」,會否容易接受?

對 Pelagius 的批判早就開始了,沒有理由等到第五世紀。

529 年係判 Semi-Pelagianism 為異端呀!

當然沒有火燒啦。

說笑:BBQ係成吉思汗攻打歐洲時,通過蒙古燒烤而傳播到西方的。

Alan Leung
06-15-2006, 02:12 PM
Here is mine. I didn't ever read his things...well, if I think like him, why should read his things then?.....Btw, do anyone know why tillich is no longer very influential ??

You scored as Paul Tillich.

Paul Tillich sought to express Christian truth in an existentialist way. Our primary problem is alienation from the ground of our being, so that our life is meaningless. Great for psychotherapy, but no longer very influential.

Paul Tillich 80%
John Calvin 80%
Anselm 80%
Charles Finney 67%
J?Moltmann 60%
Martin Luther 60%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 53%
Karl Barth 47%
Augustine 33%
Jonathan Edwards 13%

rseric
06-15-2006, 02:43 PM
其實大部份問題小弟都是偏向中間......

You scored as Jurgen Moltmann.



The problem of evil is central to your thought, and only a crucified God can show that God is not indifferent to human suffering. Christian discipleship means identifying with suffering but also anticipating the new creation of all things that God will bring about.

Jurgen Moltmann 73%
John Calvin 47%
Martin Luther 47%
Charles Finney 47%
Anselm 40%
Augustine 40%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 40%
Karl Barth 40%
Paul Tillich 40%
Jonathan Edwards 27%

小兔黑黑
06-15-2006, 11:22 PM
You scored as Anselm.

Anselm is the outstanding theologian of the medieval period.He sees man's primary problem as having failed to render unto God what we owe him, so God becomes man in Christ and gives God what he is due. You should read 'Cur Deus Homo?'

Anselm 100%
Martin Luther 87%
Charles Finney 80%
Jurgen Moltmann 73%
Karl Barth 73%
John Calvin 73%
Paul Tillich 60%
Jonathan Edwards 53%
Augustine 40%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 33%

但以理.古
06-27-2006, 11:38 PM
Which theologian are you?

http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=44116



這個test可以想像一下能製造甚麼笑話?

例一:有一天浸信會的大牧做了這個test,結果是:

Karl Barth── 45%
John Calvin── 27%
Anselm── 36%
Jonathan Edwards── 10%
Paul Tillich── 78%
J Moltmann── 65%
Augustine── 40%
Martin Luther── 33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher── 97%
Charles Finney── 90%

例二:有一天巴特做這個test,結果是:

Karl Barth── 27%
John Calvin── 50%
Anselm── 36%
Jonathan Edwards── 45%
Paul Tillich── 88%
J Moltmann── 36%
Augustine── 36%
Martin Luther── 33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher── 75%
Charles Finney── 85%




:dunno:

nkcwong
06-28-2006, 01:23 PM
Here is mine. I didn't ever read his things...well, if I think like him, why should read his things then?.....Btw, do anyone know why tillich is no longer very influential ??

You scored as Paul Tillich.

Paul Tillich sought to express Christian truth in an existentialist way. Our primary problem is alienation from the ground of our being, so that our life is meaningless. Great for psychotherapy, but no longer very influential.

Paul Tillich 80%
John Calvin 80%
Anselm 80%
Charles Finney 67%
J?Moltmann 60%
Martin Luther 60%
Friedrich Schleiermacher 53%
Karl Barth 47%
Augustine 33%
Jonathan Edwards 13%

Why isn't Tillich as influential as he was before? This is just my uneducated guess. As far as I know, Tillich came under the influence of existentialism. Now that existentialism has gone out of style, so has Tillich's theology. But I've read only fragments of his works, particularly The Shaking of the Foundations and The Courage to Be.

麥魚_andrew
06-28-2006, 03:22 PM
這個test可以想像一下能製造甚麼笑話?

例一:有一天浸信會的大牧做了這個test,結果是:

Karl Barth── 45%
John Calvin── 27%
Anselm── 36%
Jonathan Edwards── 10%
Paul Tillich── 78%
J Moltmann── 65%
Augustine── 40%
Martin Luther── 33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher── 97%
Charles Finney── 90%

例二:有一天巴特做這個test,結果是:

Karl Barth── 27%
John Calvin── 50%
Anselm── 36%
Jonathan Edwards── 45%
Paul Tillich── 88%
J Moltmann── 36%
Augustine── 36%
Martin Luther── 33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher── 75%
Charles Finney── 85%




:dunno:


如果係咁就真係幾好笑的:haha:
不過這一個test大家都不用這麼在意的,內容大簡化了。
最初貼出來都只是想比大家玩下而已~

Alan Leung
07-02-2006, 09:54 PM
Why isn't Tillich as influential as he was before? This is just my uneducated guess. As far as I know, Tillich came under the influence of existentialism. Now that existentialism has gone out of style, so has Tillich's theology. But I've read only fragments of his works, particularly The Shaking of the Foundations and The Courage to Be.

Thanks, I have got that book "Courage to be", perhaps I could read it later.


這個test可以想像一下能製造甚麼笑話?

例一:有一天浸信會的大牧做了這個test,結果是:

Karl Barth── 45%
John Calvin── 27%
Anselm── 36%
Jonathan Edwards── 10%
Paul Tillich── 78%
J Moltmann── 65%
Augustine── 40%
Martin Luther── 33%
Friedrich Schleiermacher── 97%
Charles Finney── 90%


Perhaps it's exactly because he is not a total baptist that he could become a leader for a baptist church......