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胖嘟嘟
08-09-2006, 01:40 PM
Elementary Reading Group project 092006:
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Book: Thirsty for God: A Brief History of Christian Spirituality 基督教靈修神學簡史
Author: Bradley P. Holt 候特
Coordinator and Moderator: 胖嘟嘟
Duration: September to December 2006.
Pace: Slow

Week Tentative Schedule
1. Getting the book By end of August 2006
2. 前言+基督教與靈修學 1-2 Sept 3 – 16
3. 聖經中的四種關係 3-4 Sept 17 – 30
4. 世界社區的開端 5-6 Oct 1 – 14
5. 歐洲時代 7-8 Oct 15 – 28
6. 新教及天主教的改革 9-10 Oct 29 – Nov 11
7. 現代 11-12 Nov 12 – Nov 25
8. 廿世紀 13-14 Nov 26 – Dec 9
9. 何去何從 15-16 Dec 10 - 23

Initial objectives:
To gain an overview of the history of Christian spirituality;
To get to know some of the significant person/idea throughout the history of Christian spirituality
To have personal application to our lives.

How to get the book:
For area out side Hong Kong, you may try to order a copy from Amazon.com.
For members in Hong Kong, try to get it from Christian bookstore such as 基道書樓。(I will give them a call tomorrow and see how many stocks they hold.) Price is HK$68.

Language: 中文或英文皆歡迎。

Discussion guidelines:
Whether you agree or disagree with the author, and/or the rest of the group, ‘Respect’ for individual’ is essential.
Try to stick to the topic as much as you can.
Since this is an elementary study of the subject, please try not to dig into or side track to too much details of the topic. (However, further discussion can be supplemented by other threads in other areas of SHC.)

A personal reminder: Other than gaining historical knowledge, I strongly encourage every participant to focus on how those Christian spiritual disciplines and exercises are relevant to each of us. Therefore, we will read in a relatively slow pace, and, hopefully we can all take some time to re-think our spiritual life: are we living what we understand or believe?

Participant sign up here:
1. tkhwong2005,
2. damaibing,
3. mathchan,
4. 陳彼得,
5. Clayton,
6. 風林山火,
7. Ming Yuen Yee,
8. Bill Leung
9.
10.

tkhwong2005
08-09-2006, 02:15 PM
I will join this reading group. :D

damaibing
08-09-2006, 08:44 PM
我也加入。

大麥餅

kfung
08-09-2006, 10:23 PM
May I ask if that is the 1st edition or 2nd edition of the book?

胖嘟嘟
08-09-2006, 10:46 PM
May I ask if that is the 1st edition or 2nd edition of the book?

噢,我是用中文版的,中文版只有第一版。
英文版第二版在 2005 一月發行。我相信暫時未有中文版。

不知道 Tony KH Wong 可不可以看一看第二版update 了那些topic?

tkhwong2005
08-09-2006, 11:02 PM
噢,我是用中文版的,中文版只有第一版。
英文版第二版在 2005 一月發行。我相信暫時未有中文版。

不知道 Tony KH Wong 可不可以看一看第二版update 了那些topic?


I am reading second edition. This is the contents of second edition:

1) Spirituality and Christianity
2) Spiritual Formation: Being, Relating and Doing
3) Jesus Christ and the Bible
4) the Beginnings of a Global Community
5) The Eurpoean Era
6) Protestant and Catholic Reform
7) The "Modern" Era
8) The West since 1900
9) The Non-Western World since 1900
10) Where Do we go from here?

Through the comparasion of the contents between 1st and 2nd edition, I think the second edition has an addition of (9), expansion of (2) and (3). I do not have 1st edition, I cannot compare. :dunno:

胖嘟嘟
08-09-2006, 11:35 PM
點算呢?

大家介不介意我們一起訂英文版?

若是的話,我需要確定人數,才可以向書室訂購,不過,schedule 就需要再推遲一點了。

我也去信問作者究竟第二版多了那些題目。

Daniel_Cheung
08-09-2006, 11:42 PM
點算呢?

大家介不介意我們一起訂英文版?

若是的話,我需要確定人數,才可以向書室訂購,不過,schedule 就需要再推遲一點了。

我也去信問作者究竟第二版多了那些題目。

不如你待作者回信後才決定吧。我個人認為,若分別不是很多,有中文就看中文吧,對一些會員來說這始終比較方便,易讀,省錢。

胖嘟嘟
08-09-2006, 11:50 PM
不如你待作者回信後才決定吧。我個人認為,若分別不是很多,有中文就看中文吧,對一些會員來說這始終比較方便,易讀,省錢。

同意!我和Tony 正在offline 討論第一和第二版的分別。初步估計是把第一版的"廿世紀" 分析和擴展成為 8) The West since 1900
9) The Non-Western World since 1900

其他的 則是minor changes.

又,我已問過基道,他們只餘兩本存貨。若有需要,我們就要統計一下要多少本,然後我去訂購。

mathchan
08-10-2006, 01:06 AM
我未參加過讀書組, 但很有興趣這題目, 想加入
p.s.: 我要買書. Chinese or English is ok for me.

陳彼得
08-10-2006, 10:31 AM
大家好!
我是新近入會的。覺得這個讀書組很有趣,想參加試試!
我已有書,不過是舊版中文譯本。
是否跟隨指引閱讀,便可以?

彼得

Daniel_Cheung
08-10-2006, 11:00 AM
歡迎你!:welcome:

至於你的問題,要待胖嘟嘟的決定了。

大家好!
我是新近入會的。覺得這個讀書組很有趣,想參加試試!
我已有書,不過是舊版中文譯本。
是否跟隨指引閱讀,便可以?

彼得

慕容仰
08-10-2006, 12:10 PM
我先去图书馆找书后才决定,因为最近写专文的灵感来了(啃了好一些书后),所以想赶快解决专文的第一稿。

抱歉!

Clayton
08-10-2006, 12:32 PM
應該會很有趣吧!我希望可以從靈修傳統中讀到一些與當代人文科學對話的想法。

風林火山
08-10-2006, 01:48 PM
I will join the reading group too.
I have the book(Chin Ver.) but haven't read it before.(I bought too many books and read too less!)and hope I can learn more about this subject!

Ming Yuen Yee
08-10-2006, 10:32 PM
I would love to join too. I should be able to read the book, but may not have much to contribute to the discussion. It seems that I am too ambitious in signing up for too many groups already. :p

Bill Leung
08-10-2006, 10:41 PM
我參加。煩請為我訂書。

jhpwong@us.ibm.com
08-11-2006, 06:47 AM
It is great to be able to join your discussion team. I ordered the book, and still has not arrived, but seems to have enough time to match your schedule of progress.

Thanks.

Jonathan

hh22
08-13-2006, 02:15 PM
這本書的中文版我看過首兩章,後來,發現郭鴻標著《歷代靈修傳統》(香港基督徒學會,2001)和彭順強著《二千年靈修神學歷史》(天道出版,2005)也寫得不錯!逐並觀而看,所以,我可能間中會參與討論,但未必能跟足每一次的閱讀進度!

胖嘟嘟
08-13-2006, 09:45 PM
大家好!
我是新近入會的。覺得這個讀書組很有趣,想參加試試!
我已有書,不過是舊版中文譯本。
是否跟隨指引閱讀,便可以?

彼得

我們將使用中文版第一版閱讀。
有些在外地的會員則會用英文第二版。

mathchan
08-14-2006, 04:37 AM
這本書的中文版我看過首兩章,後來,發現郭鴻標著《歷代靈修傳統》(香港基督徒學會,2001)和彭順強著《二千年靈修神學歷史》(天道出版,2005)也寫得不錯!逐並觀而看,所以,我可能間中會參與討論,但未必能跟足每一次的閱讀進度!
I also have 《二千年靈修神學歷史》. If I have time, I will also read this book at the same time.

陳彼得
08-14-2006, 09:06 AM
二千年靈修神學歷史和歷代靈修傳統,這兩本書我已購買。期望讀書組能早日開始。

tong
08-14-2006, 01:01 PM
我很希望參加,明天去找書,難得找到志同道合者。
但因為九月會去台灣上課約一個月,怕跟不上。

胖嘟嘟
08-15-2006, 02:38 AM
謝謝大家的推介。我剛剛也跑去買了一本《二千年靈修神學歷史》來讀。


我會在另一個thread 綜合訂書的情況。

Naviva
08-18-2006, 11:17 AM
And I need to order the book too.

Thanks for help.

胖嘟嘟
08-18-2006, 11:25 AM
And I need to order the book too.

Thanks for help.

Welcome to join us!

Right now, there are only one or two of us who needs to get the book. Unless you want to get the english version, you can get the chinese version of the book in this thread (http://www.christianroundtable.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1313).

I still don't know any local (Hongkong) bookstore carries the english version now. If you really want the english version, most likely you will need to order it from Amazon or through New Chapter or Evangelical reading room.

新書館New Chapter

灣仔軒尼詩道303號華創大廈3樓<地圖 Map>
3/F, CRE Building, 303 Hennessy Rd., Wan Chai

電話Tel:+852 2881 7338
傳真Fax:+852 2881 7339

營業時間Office Hour
逢星期一,四,五,六
Mon, Thur, Fri, & Sat
10:00a.m. - 8:00p.m.
星期二,三 Tue, Wed
11:00a.m. - 8:00p.m.
星期日及公眾假期
Sun and Public Holiday
1:00p.m. - 7:00p.m.


福音閱覽室
Evangelical
Reading Room


九龍彌敦道138號聖安德烈基督中心2字樓 <地圖Map>
2/F, St. Andrew's Christian Center, 138 Nathan Rd, Kln, Hong Kong

電話tel:+852 2369 8513
傳真fax:+852 3005 4913

營業時間Office Hour
星期一至五
Mon to Fri
11:00am-8:00pm
星期六Sat 10:00am-7:00pm
星期日 Sun1:00pm-6:00pm
公眾假期休息
Public Holiday: Closed

mathchan
08-19-2006, 04:44 AM
Just checked with New Chapter, Evangelical Reading Room, and Logos. They all do not have English origianal versions. Probably, I need to read Chinese translation now. Anyway, it is good for me to practice my Chinese.

胖嘟嘟
08-27-2006, 11:24 PM
This post has been reposted in 簡史時間表 (http://www.christianroundtable.org/forum/showthread.php?p=18495#post18495) to better keep track of the list.

麥魚_andrew
09-03-2006, 07:46 AM
大家好~

我剛剛買了那本書,我現在報名不會太遲吧!?

胖嘟嘟
09-03-2006, 08:42 AM
大家好~

我剛剛買了那本書,我現在報名不會太遲吧!?

噢,怎會太遲呢?歡迎你!

Alan Leung
09-03-2006, 10:54 AM
I would also like to join this reading group and have bought the book last week.

胖嘟嘟
09-03-2006, 11:55 AM
I would also like to join this reading group and have bought the book last week.

Hello Alan,
Welcome! Long time no chat. Looking forward to reading your insights.

Alan Leung
09-04-2006, 10:45 AM
Hello Alan,
Welcome! Long time no chat. Looking forward to reading your insights.

thank you for your encouragement. I'll try to follow the schecule and share my views with you guys.

mfchoi
09-10-2006, 08:55 PM
早前猶疑了一些日子, 遲遲未報名. 現在讀書小組己經開始, 請容忍這位遲來者也來向各位仁兄仁姐討教.
謝謝

胖嘟嘟
09-10-2006, 10:32 PM
早前猶疑了一些日子, 遲遲未報名. 現在讀書小組己經開始, 請容忍這位遲來者也來向各位仁兄仁姐討教.
謝謝

You are very welcome. We are currently discussing/sharing chapter 1. And in particular: "What is Christian Spirituality?"

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Tim
09-11-2006, 01:53 AM
現在讀書小組己經開始,但沒有正式報名!
已在道聲書局買了那本「基督教靈修神學簡史 」。

胖嘟嘟
09-11-2006, 02:09 AM
現在讀書小組己經開始,但沒有正式報名!
已在道聲書局買了那本「基督教靈修神學簡史 」。

Welcome to join us! I know you are quite active in pariticipating discussions. Please share your thoughts with us.