07年閱讀建議

[Daniel_Cheung]

不知不覺本區的兩個小組（商業倫理和同性戀）已到尾聲，是時候想想接著看甚麼。各位請隨便提議。提一提，這裡是普及閱讀小組，不要找些很高深的東西，大家當是平常讀物、茶餘飯後一起談談便是了。

會是文學與城鎮規劃 http://www.christianroundtable.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1552 嗎？

[kktsui]

我對The Death and Life of Great American Cities 這本書興趣較大，但是不是要和 《活著》那書一起看嗎 ?

[胖嘟嘟]

其實我只是拋出我的想法。

《活著》其實不厚。加上是小說，可以很快看完。但是，若要一起閱讀，可能會討論到作者的文學手法，其他則是小說所反映的中國社會，人民生活的形態，也可以參考其他網上的評語。不過，可能若有一些文學方面的高手指點，會更好一些。


《美國大城市的生與死》則很有趣，至於它可以讓我們立刻想到現時生活中的香港。

現在和太太及BB的生活的出入，都是差不多那幾間大型商場。因為方便，又有免費泊車，又有萬寧(drug store)，美心、大家樂、肯德基(快餐店)‧‧‧我已很少出去尖沙咀，香港島...等地方慢慢的逛。

不是所有的香港人都是如此。我其實很想去一次香港建築中心主辦的「築電之旅」 (http://www.archicentre.hk/b5/index.php?page=our_programme_tours1)，應該很有意思。

回KKTSUI，兩本書可以分開看。

[Daniel_Cheung]

請問各位還有沒有甚麼建議？若是看《美國大城市的生與死》，您會考慮參加嗎？

[if_chf24]

I would love to lead a group about Indian Christianity. There are two choices:

1. Rebels and Outcasts (Paperback)
by Charlie Pye-Smith (Author)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rebels-Outcasts-Charlie-Pye-Smith/dp/014024462X/sr=8-3/qid=1165342233/ref=sr_1_3/203-9572597-7466328?ie=UTF8&s=books

This one is a simple read. This is Charlie's own journey in India, visiting different Christian communities across the countries and doing interviews with priests and laymen. Easy English with no difficult theological terms. Journalist type of book. Good for bedtime reading too. Suitable for beginners. Anyone is welcome.

2. Christianity in India: Two Thousand Years of Faith (Hardcover)
by Leonard Fernando (Author), G. Sauch-Gispert (Author)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Christianity-India-Thousand-Years-Faith/dp/067005769X/sr=8-18/qid=1165341939/ref=sr_1_18/203-9572597-7466328?ie=UTF8&s=books

A short introduction to the history of Christianity in India, with chapters on an Indian understanding of Christ, Indian Christian worship and rituals, and daily lives of Indian Christian. The book was an attempt by Indian Christians to explain their faith to their non-Christian compatriots and explain who they are and what they believe. Written at the turn of the century amidst the controversy of anti-conversion law in India. Good for anyone who is interested in contextual theology or church history. The authors are Catholic and their theology is very liberal and universalist. But this is the best short introduction to Indian Christian history that I have read so far. (The others are too heavy for our reading group.)

As I will join Clement's Pannenberg group, I prefer to start this group after I have finished reading "Theologie und Philosophie" (in Chinese of course. =P )

[nkcwong]

還有，如果開法律哲學閱讀小組，請問有多少會員願意參與？不過讀起來不是輕鬆的，所以真的需要大家的commitment。但是如果你想進法律學院，或想從事與法律有關的行業，又或想理解法律與倫理的關係等，這科可說是必讀的。

如果很少人會參與，我也許會將之轉為個人閱讀分享。我不想因為只有一兩位會員參與，就佔了幾個月的時間，令其他會多人有興趣參加的閱讀小組不能開展。

[Daniel_Cheung]

各位請踴躍回應，大家來這學會，或多或少都是想一起看書的吧！

[el244]

I am interested in the Indian Christianity group (probably the second book - it sounds more structured and would probably make it easier for discussion purpose). Yu Hua's novel and The Life and Death of Great American Cities - I am interested, but they won't be very high on my priority list - I can forsee myself giving them up easily for something else if there are something more interesting.

I wonder if anyone is interested in Islam? It is perhaps one of the most important topic in recent years (if not longer) but it seems that the understanding of it in Chinese-speaking Christian communities is, at least, not so strong. I'm no expert either, having only touched upon fragmented bits and pieces through my musical studies, but if there is enough interest we could find something to read together, maybe in the later part of the year?

[clement]

對聖經有興趣的話，何不讀讀一些普及性的、基礎性的聖經研究讀物？

Whybray, R. N., Introduction to the Pentateuch. Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans Pub. Co., 1995.

Clines, D., The Theme of the Pentateuch. Sheffield: JSOT, 1982 (1st ed.).

[Daniel_Cheung]

既然有三位會員對《美國大城市的生與死》有興趣，不如大家想想是否開這一個小組吧！

我個人沒有空參加閱讀小組了，除了以下這些有較強烈興趣或需要，或不太陌生的：
一．《神學與哲學》那一組，但也不會很積極。
二．繼 Younger Evangelicals (http://christianroundtable.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51)後，再看一兩本與美國福音派有關的書，由於這個課題較熟悉，所以多看一兩本無妨。心目中有想過看的，是Collins, The Evangelical Moment (http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Moment-Promise-American-Religion/dp/0801027446/sr=8-3/qid=1165878546/ref=sr_1_3/105-3899033-7478833?ie=UTF8&s=books)這是從衛理宗角度看的，較強調大公性和社會性，與我們在香港聽來的美國福音派，似乎有些分別。所以想看看；另一本是McLaren, A New Kind of Christian (http://www.amazon.com/New-Kind-Christian-Friends-Spiritual/dp/078795599X/sr=1-1/qid=1165878654/ref=sr_1_1/105-3899033-7478833?ie=UTF8&s=books) 這是後現代版本的福音派，已有中譯。然而，我相信沒有多少會員有興趣的了，有興趣的早已在 Younger Evangelicals (http://christianroundtable.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51)小組看夠了。我之所以想看，是基於很私人的原因，我想對福音派有較全面的認識，包括上述兩類較少在香港聽聞的，以便日後對香港教會的評論可有更多角度和靈感。若沒有人想一起看，或許日後我讀後寫在個人閱讀分享區。這建議與《美國大城市的生與死》小組可同時進行的。

[horace]

可不可以貼多些《美國大城市的生與死》的資料上來﹖這本看來頗有趣﹐是那類型的哲學﹖

另外我對法律哲學也有興趣﹐不過唔想好似同性戀那邊得番我同nkcwong兩個。

[胖嘟嘟]

可不可以貼多些《美國大城市的生與死》的資料上來﹖這本看來頗有趣﹐是那類型的哲學﹖

另外我對法律哲學也有興趣﹐不過唔想好似同性戀那邊得番我同nkcwong兩個。

here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0679600477/qid=1149671668/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-3449291-2252146?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

excerpt of stella review:

A Constellation of Ideas About City Planning, May 19, 2003
Reviewer: Jeffrey Leach (Omaha, NE USA) - See all my reviews

This 1961 book by Jane Jacobs, a one-time writer for architectural magazines in New York City, turned the world of city planning on its head. The author, who possessed no formal training in architecture or city planning, relied on personal observations of her surroundings in Greenwich Village in New York City to supply ammunition for her charges against the grand muftis of the architectural profession. "The Death and Life of Great American Cities" consists mostly of common sense observations, but there is also a good amount of statistical information, economics, sociology, and some philosophy at the base of the author's arguments. This 1993 Modern Library reprint seeks to bring Jacobs's work to a whole new generation of readers, a necessity when one realizes that a majority of the problems plaguing cities in 1961 continue to be a problem today.
Jacobs begins her book with a brief history of where modern city planning came from. According to the author, the mess we call cities today emerged from Utopian visionaries from Europe and America beginning in the 19th century. Figures such as Ebenezer Howard, Lewis Mumford, Le Corbusier, and Daniel Burnham all had a significantly dreadful impact on how urban areas are built and rebuilt. These men all envisioned the city as a dreadful place, full of overcrowding, crime, disease, and ugliness. Howard wished to destroy big cities completely in order to replace them with small towns, or "Garden Cities," made up of small populations. Similar in thought to Howard, Mumford argued for a decentralization of cities into thinned out areas resembling towns. Le Corbusier, says Jacobs, inaugurated yet another harmful plan for cities: the "Radiant City." A radiant city consists of skyscrapers surrounded by wide swaths of parks where vast concentrations of people herded into one area could live and work. Burnham's contribution to planning was "City Monumental," where all of the grand buildings (libraries, government buildings, concert halls, landmarks) of a city could be clustered in one agglomeration separated from the dirty, bad city. Jacobs writes that all of these ideas continue to exert influence on the modern city, and that all of these ideas do not work......



另外，台灣也有一個有趣的明清的城市文化與生活 (http://citylife.sinica.edu.tw/index.htm)。

還有今年年中時代雜誌專題介紹的南韓首爾 (http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/501060515/story.html)。 好像無線或亞視或RTHK 也有專輯訪問過首爾如何去更新她的城市，如何去突破重重的困難和爭議,....

[胖嘟嘟]

另外，2007年我也打算拾回買了許久的
The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard (http://www.dwillard.org/books/DivConsp.asp) 來看。

買的是精裝書。買了幾年都未看啊~~

不知有沒有同好一起看？

好像快有中文版。叫天外謀略 (https://shop.campus.org.tw/writer/Willard/willard.htm)。

[nkcwong]

另外我對法律哲學也有興趣﹐不過唔想好似同性戀那邊得番我同nkcwong兩個。

現在有我和horace有興趣，還有沒有其他人有想參加？如果有三到四個人真的可以commit的話，那麼正式開一個小組也無妨，反正我已經決定明年想花時間重溫這門課程。人多一些我的motivation會大一點。還有，如果大家有一些case想討論，也可以提出來，看看哪裏適合加插。

大家可以在這個link找到多點關於建議的法律哲學閱讀小組資料﹕http://www.christianroundtable.org/forum/showthread.php?p=20636#post20636

我會在未來幾個星期給大家一個較清晰的閱讀大綱。:) 只要check以上的link就是了。

[Daniel_Cheung]

其實我正在看天主教哲學家皮柏的《閒暇：文化的基礎》（立緒出版社）英文版 (http://www.amazon.com/Leisure-Basis-Culture-Josef-Pieper/dp/1890318353/sr=8-1/qid=1166216004/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3892476-6820605?ie=UTF8&s=books)，大家有興趣可以在書店裡買來一起看。只是，我不知我會看得快或慢（視乎別的工作進度），也不知怎樣討論這本書，所以沒有提出來。但是，可能真的有會員有興趣，所以還是寫一寫，看看有何反應。

各位請踴躍自組或參與閱讀小組，享受當中的樂趣。

[horace]

咁有冇人搞美國大城市的生與死的讀書會呀﹖一月開始的話﹐差不多要出outline了﹐仲要買書。

[Daniel_Cheung]

咁有冇人搞美國大城市的生與死的讀書會呀﹖一月開始的話﹐差不多要出outline了﹐仲要買書。

大家都不想開這一組麼？

[Daniel_Cheung]

試行了大半年，我有點覺得同期開幾個閱讀小組，只會令每一個都變得凋零。另外，普及閱讀小組不是不好，但可能太「普及」，不是甚麼經典名著，沒有很多人有興趣，看了又不知可談甚麼。我想還是把閱讀小組改回一個專區，大家集中討論同一本書會比較合宜。當然，若日後多了很多人想同時讀不同的書，我們再作安排回應需要，也未嘗不可。

[damaibing]

不知不覺本區的兩個小組（商業倫理和同性戀）已到尾聲，是時候想想接著看甚麼。各位請隨便提議。提一提，這裡是普及閱讀小組，不要找些很高深的東西，大家當是平常讀物、茶餘飯後一起談談便是了。

會是文學與城鎮規劃 http://www.christianroundtable.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1552 嗎？

這個link已經無效了。你說文學與城鎮規劃，是否指一類閱讀是文學作品呢？是什麼？有了決定嗎？

[Daniel_Cheung]

這個link已經無效了。你說文學與城鎮規劃，是否指一類閱讀是文學作品呢？是什麼？有了決定嗎？

有關link ，請看這裡：http://www.s-h-c.org/forum/showthread.php?p=25779#post25779

那個文學與城鎮規劃，各會員只有提出但沒有決定，所以不了了之。:p