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Daniel_Cheung
04-23-2006, 03:53 PM
Robert Webber這書可以用來支持北美新一代福音派信徒中那個稱為emerging church的運動,但要留意不是所有北美新一代福音派信徒都接受emerging church運動,而emerging church內部也有很多不同聲音。詳情我不太了解。我剛在amazon看到D. A. Carson於今年五月出版了一整本書來探討和批評emerging church,或許本閱讀小組的組員會覺得那是一個延續。
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310259479/ref=pd_ys_ir_all_9/002-9209332-2207234?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155
請問
YE = Emerging church 嗎?
Daniel_Cheung
04-23-2006, 09:57 PM
請問
YE = Emerging church 嗎?
不相同的,好像是,有些YE不認同emerging church,但很多YE都會喜歡emerging church,包括Robert Webber在內。另外,好像那些喜歡講後現代的福音派信徒也未必一定會支持emerging church的。
不相同的,好像是,有些YE不認同emerging church,但很多YE都會喜歡emerging church,包括Robert Webber在內。另外,好像那些喜歡講後現代的福音派信徒也未必一定會支持emerging church的。
這是否表現了後現代的多元無中心性 ;)
Daniel_Cheung
04-23-2006, 10:41 PM
這是否表現了後現代的多元無中心性 ;)
恐怕未必。但由於我對那些名稱和運動不了解,無法進一步解答了 :)
話說回頭,之前也有聽過那本書
也有興趣看一看 ;)
wilson
04-26-2006, 01:06 AM
Carson's final reflections: ( on page 234 )
If emerging church leaders wish to become a long-term prophetic voice that produces enduring fruit and that does not drift off toward progressive sectarianism and even, in the worst instances, outright heresy, they must listen at least as carefully to criticisms of their movement as they transparently want others listen to them. They need to spend more time in careful study of Scripture and theology as they are doing...need to take great pains not ot distort history and theology alike...need to embrace all the categories of the Scriptures, with the Scriptures' balance and cohesion...
Carson used a great deal in discussing the debate between the claims of truth and the claims of experience.
Experience: ( pages 223-30 )
1. The reality of our experience is grounded in God's transforming power.
2. The reality of our experience is attested by spiritual growth and productivity.
3. The reality of our experience is attested by our unflagging perseverance.
Truth: ( pages 230-33 )
1. Our confidence in the truth is stabilized by constant review.
2. Our confidence in the truth is established on historical witness.
3. Our confidence in the truth is grounded in biblical revelation.
Conclusion ( page 234 )
The truth is that Jesus Christ is Lord of all - of the truth and of our experience. The Bible insists that we take every thought captive to make it obediance to Christ.
Daniel_Cheung
04-26-2006, 07:17 AM
Carson's final reflections: ( on page 234 )
If emerging church leaders wish to become a long-term prophetic voice that produces enduring fruit and that does not drift off toward progressive sectarianism and even, in the worst instances, outright heresy, they must listen at least as carefully to criticisms of their movement as they transparently want others listen to them. They need to spend more time in careful study of Scripture and theology as they are doing...need to take great pains not ot distort history and theology alike...need to embrace all the categories of the Scriptures, with the Scriptures' balance and cohesion...
Carson used a great deal in discussing the debate between the claims of truth and the claims of experience.
Experience: ( pages 223-30 )
1. The reality of our experience is grounded in God's transforming power.
2. The reality of our experience is attested by spiritual growth and productivity.
3. The reality of our experience is attested by our unflagging perseverance.
Truth: ( pages 230-33 )
1. Our confidence in the truth is stabilized by constant review.
2. Our confidence in the truth is established on historical witness.
3. Our confidence in the truth is grounded in biblical revelation.
Conclusion ( page 234 )
The truth is that Jesus Christ is Lord of all - of the truth and of our experience. The Bible insists that we take every thought captive to make it obediance to Christ.
剛在美國出版你就買了!:eek:
看來Carson眼中這個emerging church是危險的,要用到「異端」一詞來警告。
liberale
04-29-2006, 11:51 AM
Could anybody tell me more about the Emerging Church Movement?
Daniel_Cheung
04-29-2006, 12:51 PM
Could anybody tell me more about the Emerging Church Movement?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_Church
http://www.emergentvillage.com/Site/index.htm
liberale
04-30-2006, 03:20 PM
Thank you!
liberale
12-05-2006, 06:51 AM
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